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Missing 411
Missing 411 (2016)
Movie
  • Director:
    Michael DeGrazier,Benjamin Paulides
  • Category:
  • Writer:
    David Paulides
  • Cast:
    Jaryd Atadero,DeOrr Kunz Jr.,Nate Eaton
  • Time:
    1h 38min
  • Budget:
    $100,000
  • Year:
    2016
A documentary that chronicles the similar disappearances of five children in the wilds of North America, across multiple decades.
Casts
Cast overview, first billed only:
Jaryd Atadero Jaryd Atadero - Himself - Missing Person (archive footage)
DeOrr Kunz Jr. DeOrr Kunz Jr. - Himself - Missing Person (archive footage)
Nate Eaton Nate Eaton - Himself - East Idaho News Reporter
Frank Vilt Frank Vilt - Himself - Private Investigator
Steve Penner Steve Penner - Himself - Chief Deputy Lemhi County
Jamie Preswich Jamie Preswich - Herself - Friend of Kunz Family
Kelsey Olsen Kelsey Olsen - Herself - Friend of Kunz Family
George Knapp George Knapp - Himself - Radio Interviewer
David Paulides David Paulides - Himself - Radio Interviewee
James Pickering James Pickering - Himself - Estes Park Historian Laureate
John Davis John Davis - Himself - Camp St. Malo Care Taker
Deborah Francis Deborah Francis - Herself - Search and Rescue Volunteer 1
Jayne Zmijewski Jayne Zmijewski - Herself - Search and Rescue Volunteer 2
Trina Clegg Trina Clegg - Herself - Grandmother of DeOrr Jr.
Jessica Mitchell Jessica Mitchell - Herself - Mother of DeOrr Jr,

Missing 411 (2016)

Parents of DeOrr Jr were later named suspects after filming of this documtentary. Based on FBI behavioral analysis and multiple failed LTDs, the Lemhi County Sheriff officially named Jessica Mitchell and Vernal DeOrr Kunz as suspects in their son's disappearance. Nothing mysterious about that unless you consider their stories that were continuously changed from one interview to the next.

Ddilonyne
Ddilonyne
This documentary was supposed to be about strange and unexplained disappearances. Instead we got one family's quite sketchy account of what happened to their son. A few other unrelated cases were thrown in haphazardly. It was extremely disappointing as I watched it with a room full of people who shrugged and said "Kids wander off it happens." There was no details (berries, extreme weather, German heritage, dogs behaving strangely) that makes Missing 411 so intriguing.

On another note the makers of this film are rude and unprofessional. I have observed them been extremely rude to people asking genuine questions about run time, compatibility with DVD's, and shipping etc.

The worst part is they are removing and blocking anyone who doesn't leave a positive review of the movie!!!
Thundershaper
Thundershaper
A very well produced movie, the cinematography wonderfully presented and the subject matter gripping. Being a long follower of the missing 411 work, I was excited to see the product of all the research and strange circumstances surrounding individuals who inexplicably vanished. The film introduces the phenomena well and sets up a documentary which you immediately can not turn away from. I looked forward to the interviews shown in the trailer but found these did not make the final cut, a little disappointing considering Paulides and George Knapp have so much to say on the subject. The film pivots around one single case which to be fair is very interesting, if not a little shady. Some would comment a huge amount of suspicion around the case which for me personally left me wanting the film to move on from this and present other cases mentioned in the books those being the main profile that make David's work so compelling: K9 scents, folded clothes, missing shoes, change of weather, the impossibility of locations, boulder fields the list goes on. The film touches on this ever so briefly but I feel nothing presented in this documentary is a classic missing 411 event. However it is a very interesting film and I hope the start of a running set of films which will open up the whole Missing 411 enigma. Well done to everybody involved and continue this fantastic research. A brilliant effort.
Androlhala
Androlhala
I have followed David Paulides for a few years now and although this film was not what I expected I still have to applaud the excellent cinematography and work which has went into this production. Yes the main thread may provoke controversy but after watching the film again I have a different view on this. I felt that the Deorr case, for me anyway, demonstrated the difference between a 411 case and a homicide case. This may well not have been the intention but it was what I took from the film. This film is extremely important in that people MUST be made aware of what is going on out there, not just in America, but all over the world. Some people only care about themselves and that is their prerogative, however if you care about others and want to know what is happening then this work has to be supported. The film is a welcome break from all the usual CGI rubbish and I for one will watch it again and urge others to find out more about this subject.
crazy mashine
crazy mashine
I've read books and listened to many interviews. This movie has captured the raw emotion of the families effected by these strange disappearances and offered so much more with the interviews of people involved. Having such a well-respected wilderness expert explain things as he did really drive it home. There's nothing more precious than a child and I hope this movie helps to make people aware of how quickly a child can disappear. Great movie!
Qumen
Qumen
I've been waiting for a long time to watch this movie and I am not disappointed. David and Ben Paulides did a great job raising awareness to the unexplained cases of missing people, not only in the USA and Canada where their organization operates but also all around the world where many similar unsolved incidents occur. Just one example of Jaryd Atadero, correlated with David Paulides's sharp and insightful conclusions on the strange similarities of circumstances and whereabouts of all the cases is enough to make the the spectator curious, puzzled and hungry for more knowledge.-

David Paulides's commitment to this grave issue is more than obvious. I would consider Missing 411 a must-watch for everybody who feels for the families still waiting for their loved ones to be found as well as all the thrill- and- adventure seekers who get a chance to be forewarned before their hikes. Also for everybody who call themselves keen and watchful observers of reality.
Cerana
Cerana
So, from the moment I found out about the work David Paulides was doing with his books in "The Missing 411" series, my eyes were opened to an extremely bizarre and troubling phenomenon. People have been going missing in clusters around the country with mysterious circumstances and a large percentage are in national parks, and the parks system doesn't keep (or at least release) database information about these people??? This is what I believe is the true focus of this film and all of the books... to warn people of the potential danger that clearly exists but is being downplayed. We're not imagining these people missing... the information Paulides presents in the books and movies is from actual newspaper articles, police reports and witness testimony. so to give this film a bad rating because of completely unrelated situations, opinions, and unsubstantiated claims is to completely miss the point and do a disservice to the true purpose of the movie and books. Sure, we all were hoping for a ton of the thought provoking case profiles in the books to be presented, but that just logically could not happen in a 1.5 to 2 hour long film. If we really care about the people who have gone missing and their families and anyone who will potentially go missing in the future, we need to get over ourselves and help promote this movie so attention will be drawn where attention is severely needed. My heart goes out to the families that have suffered through the unthinkable, and I hope this movie and the other work Paulides is doing will honor them by bringing that much needed attention. I too selfishly wanted more, but maybe positively promoting this film will get me more sequels to satisfy my selfishness (and subsequently bring even more attention to the lost!)

God bless.
Dead Samurai
Dead Samurai
Missing 411: The Movie I was one of the early backers to support the funding of David Paulides film based on the Missing 411 book series, and I can say after watching it that my expectations were exceeded. It's beautifully filmed, and has a high production value and polish which surprised me, because they did not have the resources or budget that a film of this magnitude would normally warrant. It's evident that they worked very hard on this, and every dollar that was contributed is up there on the screen. Congratulations to David and Ben Paulides, and director Michael DeGrazier, and all those who participated, for making a film with integrity and heart. It must have been incredibly difficult to decide what cases to feature in the film, but the profiles of the missing children will haunt you. I have a terrifying early memory about being lost in the woods once as a small child, which happened the Uintas in Utah, and I can state from experience how fast it happens and it's like being in a hall of mirrors where you cannot discern what direction you're going in once your off the path. I was lucky enough that I found my way back to family. The film expands the scope of the material in the book series in that it's able to visually show you the locations where these disappearances took place, and includes re-enactments and interviews with family members and search-and-rescue volunteers, and convincingly demonstrates with the help of Les Stroud the baffling trajectories and difficulty of the terrain some of the victims (small children) were presumed to have taken from the point where they vanished and were last seen, to the point where they were found later. I think the film is a must-have for everyone who has followed the book series, and should be seen by every parent thinking of visiting a National Park (or anywhere outdoors) with their family. I hope this isn't a stand-alone film but the beginning of a series that can be expanded on in the future.
Waiso
Waiso
1. Yes, I DO recommend people see this documentary! 2. It deserves high marks for attempting what no others ever have before. 3. The camera work is truly stellar. 4. I'm going to be painfully honest about why it really missed it's mark.

In all fairness, it does great justice to the Deorr Kunz case, and it's a good vehicle to fully feel and understand the powerful sense of loss that Jaryd Atadero has had to cope with all these years. What might be the issue here for a lot of people(Me included) is that it tries too hard to emphasize those 2 cases ALONE(especially Deorr's) at the expense of other, extremely important cases that are not only similar, but also as poignant. I believe I understand the 'style' of documentary that Michael and Ben were trying to put together here, but it simply falls a bit flat throughout, and tends to also ramble in places where it should be moving on to other cases rather than backtracking with the same depth and heartfelt emotion. I also do NOT think adding voice-overs from C2C shows brought anything worthwhile of relevance to this project. Going back over and over and returning to a subject that has seemingly been covered already is also distracting and often frustrating to watch. Personally, I believe documentaries that do that tend to lose people's interest quickly because it takes you back rather than moving you progressively forward.

Nonetheless, it's important enough that people should take the time to see it. And I DO hope the next one, assuming there will be one, will hit people in the gut like Paulides' interviews often do. Bullet-point facts back-to-back, less mellow-drama and over-emphasis than we saw here,and a lot more emphasis on the MYSTERY, the boulder fields, the extreme similarities of cases, the possible paranormal aspects(as in the kid who refused to poop for his robot grandma), the international cases, and Mr. David Paulides himself in front of the camera speaking to us directly occasionally.

That would REALLY do it for me...
Tall
Tall
"....I was moved to tears....by boredom. The 'Missing 411' books upon which this film is based on are little more than editorialized collections of data. The central case in this film version is typical of the thousands of others that are documented in researcher/author David Paulides' half a dozen volumes.

That said, with such an enormous wealth of subjects, the central case of missing 2 year old Deorr Kuntz is a perplexing choice to focus on. Although sad, tragic, controversial and recent, the family and the witnesses involved are strikingly unsympathetic. Honestly, I couldn't wait for the Director to move on to the next chapter. But he didn't. The film just languishes over these pathetic and paranoid individuals. It made me sad and uncomfortable to watch them grow increasingly suspicious of each other. The damage that the loss of their only child has wrought upon these people is obvious and the camera is there to show us all of their pain and disillusion. Like I said, made me feel sad and uncomfortable. The Director even weighs in on the accusations by suggesting that the middle-aged short order cook at the local greasy spoon was at the center of some ​​implausible conspiracy!

During the recent publicity tour promoting the films PPV release and trying to drum up more donations for his cause, Mr. Paulides teased potential viewers with the appearance of former United States Secretary of the Interior in the Obama administration, Ken Salazar. They ask Salazar if he knew weather or not his former department of over 70,000 employees kept a list of people who are missing in our National Parks system. Salazar does not appear at all uncomfortable nor does he appear to be fudging his response. I think you're barking up the wrong Giant Sequoia there, Mr. Paulides. As only a temporary keeper of the Secretary's chair, Mr. Salazar would only be read into subjects that are essential to the execution of his position. If these disappearances you've documented are indeed part of some ongoing, clandestine operation, Mr. Salazar very well may not be in that loop.

The absorbing drone camera footage and the graphics supply valuable new tools for visualizing the events surrounding these cases. A cameo appearance by the guy from a survivalist cable TV series was of no help. I likened it to having Dr. Phil interviewed in a documentary about Charles Manson.

The confounding mystery surrounding the Denis Martin vanishing is one of countless others written about in the book series that would have made a much more compelling story then the Kuntz case. it's not even touched on here. That event alone could sustain an entire film. I hope someday somebody will tell the Martin's story. I think that the answer(s) to this whole mystery lies within it's narrative.
Framokay
Framokay
Top notch film that for 90 min gives you a hard, insightful look at just a handful of the thousands of mysterious disappearances you can read about in the 6 mind-blowing Missing 411 books. The vast majority of which happen in our national parks, forests and monuments. Shot in 4k, the footage of the areas of each incident is breathtakingly gorgeous, with a defined undertone of mystery and bewilderment. If you are interested in the unexplained, look no further. The circumstances, once you understand them, can only be summed up as impossible. Les Stroud appears in the film to further reinforce that notion, as he attempts to duplicate the baffling, unlikely journey presented in one of the cases. The case of Jaryd Atadero and the interview with his father, Allyn, I found to be most gripping. As Allyn Atadero relives that fateful day, you can feel the desperation and eventual hopelessness he surely felt, with no reasonable answer for what happened or why.. If your mind isn't racing through the entirety of this feature, you aren't paying close enough attention. You can rest assured this has, since day 1, been a project filled with COMPASSION for the families of the lost, sincere sympathy when the missing are sometimes found deceased, and eagerness to come up with an answer to explain the perplexing circumstances. This is an attempt to bring fresh eyes and a wider audience to the facts surrounding the cases that are happening worldwide to this day, to educate and inform those who enjoy the outdoors. It is not meant to discourage from enjoying nature, but to raise awareness that things can happen in the blink of an eye, and sometimes you just don't get a second chance to take the appropriate precautions.
Grarana
Grarana
Very important documentary. Brings some critical unexplored information to the mainstream. Read these Missing 411 books before having the chance to see the documentary, and strongly recommend the books as well. Something very strange has been taking place in our North American national parks and has not got the proper attention deserved to solve the mysterious disappearances taking place. Was very happy with the overall out line and presentation of this film and found it to be very well researched. Have spent some time following up on some of the documented cases and must say we sure have quite a mystery of sorts to further explore. I really felt that David Paulides is someone who really generally cares to help find out this mystery and help those involved and most certainly has played a great true honest detective in his peruse of answers. Further more for the mystery buff this would be a great documentary to check out. There are many as well who believe that the Legend of Bigfoot could be associated with some of these missing folks. And there is much new evidence that suggests that we have something going on that needs more research and further documentation. Super great Documentary. I'm a tough critic as i watch many of these so cheers, enjoy and explore the realms of the unknown...... This Documentary will sure fit the bill :)
Tisicai
Tisicai
Heartbreaking and thought provoking. Way more than just a documentary. To lose a child is unimaginable and heart wrenching but for a family to lose a child under unexplained circumstances, there is no acceptance or peace. Help these families to find the truth, watch and refer to others.
ladushka
ladushka
After reading all of Paulides' books, I had such high hopes for the movie/documentary. The first case presented laid out the groundwork for the entire movie and it was severely lacking. In fact, it made the family look guilty! It was scattered and inconsistent with how the books come across. It talked about none of the key factors shared in all of the books--the common things shared among the cases. The only case that was moving and felt relevant and did the documentary justice was the Atadero case. Their heartfelt loss and sharing the events really came across and my heart goes out to them . The rest of the move was a huge disappointment. This movie could have made a huge impact but it fell very short.
BroWelm
BroWelm
The movie depicts what I thought, so many unanswered questions..its what I expected, mysterious yet tragic in its entirety.. The location and scenic collaboration are spot on. So many missing 411 cases yet to be solved. I hope these cases have closures, not only for the parents, but all involved in these cases, from the searchers to law enforcement.. There is room for sequel's, let'hope this happens.. In summery I would recommend viewing this movie..
Thetalune
Thetalune
This is an excellent documentary that gives an important insight into types of disappearances that have been happening across the States, Canada and further afield.

Considering the budget available and the fact that this is a first venture into making something like this, it is a fine documentary, carefully considered, extremely moving and well produced, with the families and the missing at the very heart of their motivations.

As someone that has read five of the author's six Missing 411 books and therefore very familiar with the numbers of eerily similar disappearances in national parks in particular, this documentary is a brilliant piece of work that will give an insight into these cases. I am sure once you watch this you will be left wanting to find out more about his work and the huge number of cases he has found, and the commonalities/profile points they share. More people need to be aware of the numbers of missing people out there, numbers that the national parks and government don't seem to want people to know about.
Tegore
Tegore
To date I've listened to all the Coast to Coast radio interviews and as many other interviews with David Paulides as possible. I wanted to see the doc so badly after hearing him answer questions, appear on Youtube, but I was somewhat disappointed.

This book series lends itself more to a whole Missing 411 series on Netflix or Hulu rather than a single doc. There are so many interesting cases, and David has a knack of walking you through the facts without inserting interpretation.

One of the lasting outcomes of his work will be a national database and the accountability of the National Park Service, an organization I fully admire. This doc does not reveal the level of obfuscation that they have put forth, leading to wild speculation.

The mystery of missing people alone is worth watching this but it doesn't do the book series justice. Perhaps no single doc could. So, maybe we'll see a series in the future.
Ohatollia
Ohatollia
Contains the best of many choices chronicled in David Paulides' books and radio presentations. Brings these to life with some of the people involved. Includes old and new cases. The voices of David Paulides and George Knapp were a great addition. Well presented, especially for readers of David's books and listeners of radio broadcasts; probably done with a limited budget. Great videos included. Informs the viewers of an ongoing, real-life problem in our National Parks and elsewhere in the US and worldwide. I am hoping for a sequel or two
Skyway
Skyway
The research by David Paulides and the profile points established regarding these unexplainable disappearances is extremely needed and important.Something is going on and something is covered up by authorities. David Paulides presents facts from thousands of cases in his Missing 411 book series and focus on some selected cases here in his movie. He does not speculate or draw any conclusions. There are thousands of heart broken families who have no clue as to what happened to their relative. Please support this cause. Next can be your child or relative or you or me disappearing without a trace. Please read the books and watch this excellent and very important movie.
LØV€ YØỮ
LØV€ YØỮ
This is the only documentary on the missing of its kind. Some of these reviews are slamming paulides and his crew for defamation of character and I can say that I and many others have received nothing but heartfelt kindness and consideration from paulides. This movie was made to bring awareness to missing persons cases that could be covered well within the means of the budget. This film compliments the books and interviews and dozens of videos that have been made on the phenomenon. This is not creepy pasta tales to entertain your intrigue, rather a broad and handsomely researched documentary on real cases with real people and when you slam this film, you slam the lives of those in the film who are already suffering the pain of loss. In an EMS tech and I can relate to loss. If you've never been on a search and rescue team then you will never know what its like to be there and how much man power it takes to conduct one. This film can't just be watched, it has to be felt. This is a great first film of professional work and if the book, interviews, you tube videos and movie aren't enough, then nothing will ever be. Great documentary and beautifully made. Nothing but respect on my end.
SupperDom
SupperDom
Wish I could get my money back. Nothing like what I heard on the Coast to Coast show. Those kids in the documentary could have gone missing under many different circumstances, not as a big mystery presented on Coast to Coast. David Paludes talked more about adults who were "missing" when he was on Coast to Coast. Only one adult presented in the movie, and he had no recollection regarding what happened. Very disappointing
Wymefw
Wymefw
It is not an easy task for a small budget film crew to sift through the enormous volume of data that has been meticulously researched and compiled in the Missing 411 series of books and then craft it into a ninety-eight minute movie.

Visually appealing and beautifully shot, this documentary is designed for those who have not yet delved into reading the books. Consider it an "Intro to Missing 411" if you will. It is just enough to encourage the viewer to dip their toes in; to draw your awareness to a phenomenon of disappearances that continues to baffle police, search and rescue and the families of the missing.

And it is a subject almost everyone can relate to. If you've ever experienced that heart-stopping moment of losing your child in a crowd of people or at a busy park, you can remember the gut- wrenching feeling of panic and helplessness you've felt. The families whose stories are highlighted in this movie have also experienced this…and more.

Two important points are explored well. The depth of agony and life- altering feelings of these real people, undergoing a real experience none of us would wish to have. No amount of reading news reports can convey what is seen in their faces and heard in their voices.

The visual representations of the time line and distance of where the missing are last seen, how fast they disappear and where they have been found also brings it home.

For those people who are readers of the Missing 411 books, you may find yourself feeling impatient or bored with this documentary. Please be aware and understand the amount of information is overwhelming and not easily translated into a documentary designed to slowly open the doors.

If you have never heard of the Missing 411 phenomenon, I urge you to watch and ask questions. If you are inspired to learn even more, pick up one of the Missing 411 books. My hope is that his is just the first in a line of documentaries we will see in the future.
Musical Aura Island
Musical Aura Island
These films are at the out set quite intriguing simply by the seemingly very large numbers of persons disappeared in wilderness areas. However the cherry picking of cases and often just not stating the most probable causes of disappearances panders to uncritical minds. For example the man who was said to shed his pants folded as if he melted. But, that disregards hypothermal and dehydration do cause people to become delirious and shed clothing in frigid conditions. Numerous cases from Artic deaths show this. There also was a man who as a child managed to walk 20 plus miles and was lucky to find help. He said he experienced nothing supernatural. So we know small children can do things we might not expect. That would include walking away from adults. But frankly these cases do not explore the mundane or criminal sides of the vanishings. But, its worth while to speculate, but I am sure by now this has made its promoters very wealthy.
Qusserel
Qusserel
Just devastating to see the parents involved , keep up the good job
Brakora
Brakora
Great documentary that needs to be seen and told. I'm so grateful to have been apart of this movie as a official backer and supporter and help promote and fund this important story, I'm also so happy that the movie team as a show of gratitude put my name in the credits of the movie, which I'm very proud of being apart, just hope next time if they make another they put more emphasis on more of the strange and mysterious aspects of this phenomenon just like in the Missing411 books by David.
digytal soul
digytal soul
Missing 411 movie is very well done. The cinematography is beautiful. It is very informative and shows compassion to the families who have lost someone. It is important for all families with children to be aware of what Is going on in the National Parks of the United States. I highly recommend this movie as well as David's books. Thank you.